[00:00] This is Twicraft Town Hall for Saturday, February 9th, 2013.
[00:05] Name that is gonna bestow me would call him Jack.
[00:30] Dio, Freon, Geo, Goob, KJ, NikoDray, OMGChad,
[00:38] Myself, SillyChicken, Rage, and Vantas.
[00:43] So I guess the first update is Flea Market
[00:48] that we got on the agenda for now. So Rage, I'm gonna take it away.
[00:53] Sure, so the flea market, I don't know if any of you have a shop there, had a shop there,
[01:01] now for that matter, flea market is now closed.
[01:04] All of the stuff that was in the flea market has now been moved to the push it somewhere
[01:09] else world.
[01:10] If you had supplies in the flea market, they are not gone.
[01:14] You can retrieve them.
[01:16] iPod is going to be over the next couple weeks organizing all of them and getting them so
[01:23] that they can, that you guys can retrieve them.
[01:26] You'll be able to do a mod request and any of the mods will be able to retrieve that,
[01:32] those supplies for you and put them wherever you perform the mod request.
[01:36] iPod will probably be putting an update, basically saying all the same things later once he
[01:43] get started with the organizational stuff but that's what's going to be happening.
[01:47] The flea market has no plans right now.
[01:49] I'm literally just trying to resolve the lag issue in the area which it's better, it's
[01:54] not fixed but it's that's what's going on with it right now.
[02:02] So Rob was unable to make it but he wanted me to kind of go over what happened to DOT.
[02:09] So I guess I'll just say we kind of sum up his post.
[02:13] says after the post on the eastern line station update he removed the
[02:20] flea market station above ground one and the east bridge or the bridge station
[02:26] east side since lack of use and to add speed to the rail there's a new station
[02:33] on that line known as the aquedome station which is 200 blocks further west
[02:38] of the original one. Station also contains a north commuter rail
[02:45] and there's an eastern hub that goes to Stonerun and terminates at the bridge
[02:55] station west side. There's a south rail, he's working on that one still.
[03:02] Um, it'll...but it's gonna go directly to the Hyrule Castle.
[03:09] Um, there, um, the Pod 6 terminal will be removed.
[03:17] And there's gonna be a little information booth at Grand Central Station, so the status kind of overall.
[03:24] The North Hub is active. The South Hub is going overall.
[03:28] Overall, East Hub is active and West Hub is active, so I guess that is the kind of a summed
[03:35] up version of the DOT update.
[03:38] So if I get the deck up on the Sky5, so I guess I'll have Asimov do his little update
[03:48] for Sky5.
[03:49] Yeah, I'm basically redoing the entire commercial district.
[03:55] It's actually closed right now to anyone getting in or out.
[04:00] If you have a shop in there, please take it down by the 22nd, that's when I want to start
[04:04] building.
[04:05] I'm going to talk to an agency and a mod, because if we can get something similar to
[04:11] what they're doing with the flea market for anyone that doesn't take their shop down.
[04:15] But if you do have a shop there, it still is up.
[04:19] The doors are password protected.
[04:21] You have in-game mail that tells you how to get in.
[04:24] If you have any questions, contact myself or Toronto Mario on Twitter or in-game and
[04:31] we can get you set up.
[04:35] Okay, so Toucan isn't here so he can't do his brainwashing of TCAP.
[04:43] So we're going to move on to something that happened on, was it, I think it was Wednesday?
[04:50] No, yeah, no, Thursday, sorry.
[04:52] Thursday afternoon around 4, where I lived, about 1 o'clock.
[04:56] No, not 1 o'clock.
[04:57] I am 2 o'clock on the west coast.
[05:00] Twitcraft went down, majorly.
[05:03] Um, I guess if you guys want to throw your input, I know Chad is here.
[05:08] He could probably throw some input or...
[05:09] Yeah, lots of stuff has happened on our end.
[05:13] So I guess I'll have...
[05:14] I don't know if you guys want to take it away, kind of discuss what you guys...
[05:18] speculation but I guess we can have Chad probably take it away. Yeah, I can give an official sort of what happened.
[05:25] So yeah, the server did go down. We were confused by the amount that it went
[05:34] down because normally when it goes down we just go back in, turn it on, restart,
[05:41] whatever. We didn't have access to the server at all so it seemed like to us
[05:46] it had just been unplugged.
[05:49] And that was very scary.
[05:52] Also, the person, our contact at Server Central, Dan Hootz,
[05:57] his website was down.
[05:58] And so it looked like his server had also
[06:01] been completely unplugged.
[06:04] And because of that, we normally have, it's called a CNAME,
[06:09] a CNAME to a stat server that couldn't get resolved
[06:13] because his website was down.
[06:15] We also couldn't send him any email because his website was down.
[06:20] And Server Central, because we're sort of on like a weird pseudo-official thing with them,
[06:29] there was no like stats page for us to go check to see what was going on.
[06:35] It has since come up.
[06:37] Dan Hoot's site is still down, so we still don't have access to our stats, which we
[06:42] normally do.
[06:43] But what we believe it is, is because they have multiple locations, the server that
[06:50] is hosting Twitcraft is in the same area that all the blizzards are happening.
[06:55] So even though we still have not heard an official word from Dan Hootz, our contact,
[07:01] we believe that it was a power outage or something to do with weather because of all
[07:08] of the blizzards and such.
[07:13] So that's the official word.
[07:15] The official word.
[07:17] So does anyone have any input or just kind of news worthy than discussion?
[07:25] So I guess we will move on to land ownership.
[07:29] I know there was some heated stuff earlier in the week about land ownership around spawn.
[07:36] No Montes is pretty much directly affected by this.
[07:39] I think we'll have you take it from here.
[07:44] Yeah, I had a rude awakening one day. I've been wanting to build a basement one of the
[07:49] towers I have near spawn and I discovered someone had decided to build a few blocks below the surface
[07:57] down to bedrock, a giant cavern, and they started filling it in with like apartments and shops
[08:03] and like a giant storage structure. And so yeah, I eventually talked to him about it and they told
[08:12] me to ask him to take it down and he agreed. So the point is I wish we could, it's not
[08:22] really a rule, I wish people would respect others property. Like I understand that below
[08:29] the surface it's you know mostly for a game for mining and for building mine cart mine
[08:34] cart trucks and that's fine. But if you want to build something below you know someone's
[08:38] property please please please ask for the permission or let them know what
[08:42] you're doing because if we let if we allow that to happen then it's kind of
[08:47] setting a precedent and if we do that you know what's to stop someone from
[08:52] building a giant structure two blocks above your home so I mean take the
[08:57] common courtesy and if anyone wants so you know I know Rach had issues with it
[09:04] because he was building a giant storage structure down there and this area was
[09:09] near the flea market and we're trying to get rid of chests in that area because
[09:16] of the lag not add chests so like I said ask for permission if you're gonna
[09:21] build a giant structure down there and I'd like to hear you know how the mods
[09:25] feel about that if anybody else has input I'd like to have a discussion
[09:31] because I don't want to say like, hey, you can't build under my land.
[09:37] I don't know if anyone else agrees or disagrees or anybody.
[09:43] Well, I think that it's it's kind of like
[09:46] you need to take the same approach above ground that you do below ground,
[09:52] you know, the other way around.
[09:53] You know, we're not as off when he started Sky five wasn't building above
[09:57] somebody else's land and creating dark spot or anything like that.
[10:00] He built over water.
[10:02] So there was no way that he could really impact anybody's, you know, ground situation.
[10:08] And I think that if somebody's going to build like a sky rail, when timber was building all of that,
[10:13] he was talking to people about doing it.
[10:16] Hey, I'm going to build this over your, you know, he talked to me about building it over the flea market
[10:21] and adding it up access station to it and everything.
[10:26] And it's just kind of the, you know, do unto others kind of thing.
[10:30] I completely agree with Montes. It's not necessarily that we're saying you can't do it, but at least ask because who knows?
[10:38] It may be something where they can work something out with you because it can kind of be a crappy situation if you're on the bad side of it.
[10:49] Yeah, I agree. It is difficult to
[10:54] moderate to keep on top of it because it tends to be a reactionary situation
[10:58] because it tends to happen without anyone knowing, especially since it's like building below someone.
[11:04] But as a rule, be polite to your neighbors.
[11:08] I don't know if there's a way that the mods could be more vigilant,
[11:17] any more than there are now, but I agree that it's not fun when you expect to have an area that
[11:26] you can expand into and then it's no longer there.
[11:30] So does anyone have any more input on this?
[11:38] Or you guys got anything or no?
[11:44] Okay. I guess this is
[11:51] Rage's kind of baby he really wants is
[11:54] Stargates. Sure, I guess I'll let you go on your
[11:57] spiel about that. Yeah I know that
[12:01] it wasn't brought up in the last town hall because I wasn't here to
[12:06] bring it up. It's kind of something that
[12:24] multiple problems that we're kind of experiencing on on the server with the
[12:29] overpopulation around the spawn area with the
[12:33] problems with chests, you know, that are causing lag. We've determined that it definitely is impacting
[12:40] performance of people's clients and of the server by having mass amount of chests in a location.
[12:47] And if we had stargates or something to where we could get to the edge of the map, you know,
[12:53] instantly we could set up buildings to have mass storage there to where it's not going to affect
[12:59] the performance of a chunk in a certain region.
[13:10] If I may take a little bit of note on that point,
[13:14] this may be delving a little bit too far into the technical. We already have
[13:18] multiverse portals on here and multiverse portals don't
[13:21] necessarily have to link to worlds. They can link to
[13:25] coordinates in a world. If you take a look at the multiverse wiki it'll tell
[13:28] you how you can make those signs so they deposit you
[13:31] at a specific place or at another sign that's a reference?
[13:40] Yeah, this isn't official. This is more like I have talked to the officials and
[13:46] and this is what was discussed. When we started the server we wanted the
[13:51] server to feel as vanilla as we could. And so the idea of
[13:57] teleportation, we didn't even give homes for I think about six months.
[14:04] We didn't give homes for forever.
[14:08] So the original idea was to keep it as super vanilla
[14:11] as possible.
[14:13] But now with the fact that there are big problems
[14:16] with signs and chests, it could be
[14:20] that the discussion is brought back up
[14:22] to have some sort of teleportation available.
[14:27] It may be, so there's a few different ways
[14:33] that we might go about this.
[14:34] And it also may be that this gets brought up and we want to keep the feeling of vanilla, so it doesn't happen.
[14:44] But it could be that we give more homes to users where you could set multiple homes, you know, home one through five.
[14:52] It could be that we do something like the multiverse portals, could be stargates, or it could be the town portals.
[15:06] So the idea that DMA5, NickFlame20 in Minecraft, brought up was that he would like towns to start like Sky5,
[15:16] five and then we would have a town portal system so that if so we could
[15:21] relieve stress off of Leoville and have a portal system that went to multiple
[15:27] towns instead of instead of the you know and and that's why we were very excited
[15:34] that the DOT got started because and and we you know I really wanted to embrace
[15:40] the rail system because it keeps it very vanilla but allows you to move you
[15:45] faster than just sprinting. So there's a few options on the table. There hasn't been a lot
[15:54] of discussion about this recently, but this can be brought up again within the mods to make this
[16:00] all happen. Yeah, I would, I mean as far as me, I think that even having two set homes or something
[16:12] of that nature would be a very easy way to resolve the performance issues because that
[16:21] would allow you to have a essentially a work area and a home area to where you can move
[16:27] around the map quickly and get things done faster as far as moving supplies and things
[16:33] of that sort because if we would be setting up something like up in the northeast corner
[16:40] of the map where it's nothing but water to held mass amounts of chests for people to
[16:46] store them for shops and whatnot they could set that as their work home and then they
[16:50] could have their still slash home be there as well.
[16:57] I guess I like having the idea of building like a warp zone or something off of the town
[17:02] portal system if you get the idea of what I mean by that.
[17:14] So you mean having a room with front towns on signs that you have warps to?
[17:19] Well, the way that the most first portals is they can be sized, they can be water, or
[17:23] they can just look like nether portals, but that way in every town we don't have to, every
[17:26] time we add a town we don't have to go through and make a crud ton of portals in that town.
[17:31] We just make one portal which goes to this warp zone which we could actually just throw
[17:34] in the same world the lobby's in.
[17:37] And we just bounce around that way.
[17:39] Now that we don't have to worry about what town gets the big obsidian block of warp
[17:43] zone in it.
[17:46] Yeah, I know with Stargates you can have a sign off to the side that selects through the town
[17:51] So you could have you know a list of 15 towns, so you'd only have one one gate
[17:58] To go through it wouldn't actually be like a Hall of Gates. It should be one gate, but that's that's how
[18:03] Stargates work. I'm not sure how the multiverse portals work. I have not played around with them
[18:09] I believe they work more like than other portals that we see now
[18:13] Where it would be like a Hall of portals
[18:15] The ones we have now are actually multiverse signed portals.
[18:19] A slightly different version of multiverse pros that instead of using commands you just
[18:22] put a sign.
[18:28] If anyone wants to have my little test bucket up here, about 10 of us could probably log
[18:32] into it without trouble and I can give a quick demonstration on how those work.
[18:39] Probably, if anyone's interest would probably do that after town hall.
[18:43] Well that's what I mean.
[18:46] I mean not now.
[18:49] So do you guys have any more input for Stargates?
[18:54] Uh, I was just gonna say I feel like making it a whole of them would make it so there
[19:01] wouldn't be as many and I don't know I just feel like it would look prettier than just
[19:04] having a wall of signs of places that you can go to and it makes it less...
[19:11] I would say more vanilla because you're using portals but it still is a bit far.
[19:17] Yeah, it's kind of hard to explain the experience of the other portal.
[19:24] You have this sign that you right-click, and then it actually scrolls through.
[19:29] So it's just a single sign, and then it selects the town that you'd want to go to.
[19:35] So it's not like a row of signs.
[19:38] Yeah, either way, I've used the Stargates in the past,
[19:42] and they can look just as pretty as the portals that we have,
[19:47] the single portal that we have now.
[19:48] It just wouldn't be multiple portals.
[19:54] So any last thoughts on this, or are we good?
[19:58] Let's do it.
[19:58] Let's build them.
[20:01] On a related note, you guys have talked about
[20:04] going to the server as well as possible.
[20:06] Right now, we're sort of sitting in this mushy middle
[20:08] ground where we're trying to keep it vanilla,
[20:11] but we have all these problems we're
[20:13] trying to solve with plug-ins.
[20:14] I think we just need to decide which way we're going here because sitting in the middle we're not really going anywhere
[20:20] I guess I believe there really is a place for this kind of middle ground server where not
[20:27] Encumbered by the fact that it's a vanilla server, you know, we have things like lift size which make life a lot easier
[20:35] But we haven't gone off into the point where we're you know warping everywhere
[20:43] I'm not saying we all need rocket boots and jet intel and being able to teleport everywhere, but
[20:48] There just, it has to be a point where we decide where something is too vanilla or too
[20:56] mod, mod heavy.
[20:58] That probably doesn't make any sense.
[21:06] This is something that I can bring up to the mods and we can have a longer discussion about
[21:12] it off air because the fact that the chests and the signs in a concentrated area are causing
[21:21] people to lag out is a big problem. And so we can and also you know Curly will be there
[21:27] so he can bring up more technical answers than we can. So that's also an option.
[21:35] We'll get it to craft podcasts on it next year.
[21:39] Right, exactly. Yeah, we'll record it tomorrow and then we'll get posted in seven months.
[21:48] So do we want to move on? I know we've been kind of talking about chest and storage
[21:51] limits kind of sprinkled throughout the whole town hall so far but there is we
[21:58] had do have a dedicated time for it so if you guys really if you guys want to
[22:02] just kind of bring it up now and kind of discuss how you want it or what we
[22:08] need to do well like the the chess things like we know the flea market
[22:15] flea market had 95 shops although not all of them were used and had at least
[22:23] 28 chests in each shop and granted it's a
[22:29] pseudo large area
[22:31] It's very concentrated and on top of that it is also very close to
[22:36] The SGS store which from what Von test tells me has lots of storage chests underneath there as well
[22:43] Which you know, we're just trying to figure out what's causing lag. We do know the item frames cause lag. We know the signs
[22:50] Attribute to it as well chests
[22:52] So whenever you, you know, building a storage facility is not going to work right now with, you know, unless you're going way far away, you know, way out in the middle of nowhere kind of thing.
[23:07] But you just have to be careful with how you're doing your storage and how many chests you have and who's around you.
[23:15] If you're way out in the middle of nowhere, like I am out in the fortress way out east,
[23:20] it's okay for me to have a lot of storage there, but I'm not going to be able to do
[23:23] it here in Leoville because the next person next to me may have just as much, and it may
[23:29] potentially cause a lag problem because chicken had the same problem out at the mirage where
[23:33] it was starting to creep out there because of people just having so much storage.
[23:39] Do we know the technical reason for this happening?
[23:42] Like is it client side or server side or what?
[23:47] It's client rendering side.
[23:50] It's just having to render so much.
[23:52] Yeah, item entities render a lot.
[23:55] Tests are item entities like torches and the item frames are.
[23:59] And they take a good bit more out of the server because it's got to do, you know, it's got
[24:05] to put a texture onto a frame and do corners and angles and stuff instead of just sticking
[24:11] a texture on the side of a box like everything else in this game.
[24:15] I know Iman and I were doing some testing out in Flatland and we just went, you know,
[24:23] we said like, I think it was 10 by 10 things of chests.
[24:27] And basically it just started dropping, dropping, dropping the more and more and more we added.
[24:33] And it was started, first it wasn't too bad, but then when we started getting like 400s,
[24:38] 500s, 600 chests, it started just kind of, it dramatically was starting to get down where
[24:44] play market was for frame rate wise.
[24:48] And I know if, I know Rage, you were saying,
[24:51] oh yeah, if you go above level 128,
[24:53] that's where the game stops rendering chests and whatnot
[24:56] for like that kind of ground level.
[24:59] Yeah, it's like 60, you know, 60 some blocks away,
[25:04] it stops really rendering it
[25:05] because of normal draw distance and whatnot.
[25:14] But yeah, just be aware of it is all that I, you know,
[25:17] I was wanting to bring up as far as the topic goes.
[25:20] It's like, don't, you don't want to build
[25:22] a gigantic storage facility next to somebody's house
[25:27] or next to someone's shop without at least talk to them.
[25:33] Be considerate to what's going on around you.
[25:36] Like building a storage facility out in Sky5
[25:41] would be a bad idea because there are lots of other people
[25:44] that have stuff out in that area as well.
[25:46] like just wherever it is, just be considerate.
[25:52] Well actually, I know it's fairly common
[25:54] for people to build a storage area underneath Sky5,
[25:57] well, under the water underneath Sky5.
[26:00] I don't know how many are down there,
[26:01] but I know it's a fairly common practice.
[26:04] Oh, and that may be because the distance is great enough
[26:08] that it may not really affect performance up in Sky5.
[26:12] Now the animals.
[26:14] Those may be going away, but that's not for now.
[26:18] Okay.
[26:22] So did anyone have any more input on stores and trust limits or whatnot?
[26:34] So we'll move on to Leoville Lots, Plots, and Slots. I know this is kind of summing up every
[26:42] town hall and it doesn't seem to progress very far but it seems like some it's starting to
[26:49] actually make some progress now over the last week or two. Clio, OMG Chad, and Cheeto are kind
[26:58] kind of in charge of that whole deal.
[27:06] Yeah, so.
[27:07] Well, so I have something exciting to say.
[27:13] One second, let me finish up writing this one thing.
[27:16] You guys talks amongst yourselves
[27:18] and then I will have something to say
[27:20] after I finish up typing up this one thing.
[27:23] Yeah, I'll take D1.
[27:26] It's D6.
[27:27] C5.
[27:30] Screwed a negative one.
[27:35] And that was awesome.
[27:37] I guess we'll just cut this out in editing so it'll be all like hey we totally beautiful
[27:44] well well I don't know you you should probably go to the forums in general
[27:51] discussion and there's now a thread well if you crash the forums you crash the
[27:57] the site so there's a new thread about Leoville plots snowshoe this will
[28:02] actually be kind of be a news to know shoe we are now opening up plots to be
[28:10] available for people so let me run through this is all written up in the
[28:15] forum post but let me run through how this is going to work any user has two
[28:22] weeks to submit their name to buy a plot after the two weeks is over we will
[28:31] have an internal lottery and shuffle up all the names that came in. That way
[28:36] people who have been playing for a year don't get snubbed because they're not
[28:40] online right now when I'm discussing this and when this goes live. So you
[28:50] submit your name to a form when there's a link at the bottom of the the
[28:55] post, and then after we shuffle up the names we will go through from top to
[29:01] bottom giving out the requested plot numbers. If there is a conflict and plot
[29:09] number on the form there is a second choice for you to choose and even a
[29:14] third choice. If either the person didn't fill out the second choice or the
[29:20] second and third choice has been taken we will try to contact them based off of
[29:24] the email that they provided in the form that we are asking for.
[29:31] And that should be done fairly quickly.
[29:33] Then the moderators will have to go in and manually add people to the regions so that
[29:39] will take a little bit of time, but by March 1st we hope to have all of the plots finished
[29:46] for people to be able to play with.
[29:50] The current cost is a $2,000 buy-in and a $1,500 monthly rent rate.
[29:57] That means that the first month, on March 1st, you will owe $3,500.
[30:03] And then at the first of every month, you'll owe the next $1,500.
[30:14] So, now we're doing the time out lag, or time out, or whatever, is pretty much you have the whole month to pay your rent.
[30:25] You have from the first until whatever the last day of the month is to spend your rent.
[30:34] And if, and so you pretty much have that whole month,
[30:40] and if you don't pay in that month,
[30:41] then we will move your area to somewhere else,
[30:46] the somewhere else land, and you,
[30:49] so you still keep all your stuff,
[30:51] but you just don't, you just don't get it.
[30:54] So that is pretty much it.
[30:59] There's a few rules about, you just,
[31:02] Pretty much you can build from bedrock up as high as you want.
[31:05] We are asking that you be polite to the whole server
[31:12] and not build an eyesore.
[31:16] So in the very beginning, I was asking people
[31:19] to make homes that looked like houses.
[31:21] And so it would be Leoville.
[31:22] It would look like a village, not really a skyscraper village.
[31:26] But some mods kind of went against that.
[31:31] Curly, the server admin in particular built a replica of himself. That's
[31:38] something that I would wish that wouldn't get built, but if something is
[31:45] obscene or really horrible we still have the right to move your creation
[31:51] or delete it entirely if it's just offensive. And some things to note, there
[31:59] There are plots, there are different sized plots.
[32:01] We wanted to create plots that people would,
[32:05] could create different things in,
[32:08] and we wanted it to feel more natural
[32:11] than just a grid of things.
[32:14] So there are differently sized plots,
[32:17] so keep that in mind.
[32:18] We also have a map of the plots and the numbers,
[32:21] but from what you guys just said,
[32:23] it sounds like you guys know,
[32:26] which plots are which.
[32:28] And that is about it.
[32:30] Any questions?
[32:32] Restrictions on what we can do with the plots, meaning
[32:35] shops, meaning residential, meaning housing rental.
[32:41] You can do just about anything except you will not
[32:44] own the region that you are in.
[32:46] So rental would be difficult because we don't,
[32:52] at the moment, we don't have an automated.
[32:54] The reason it took us so long is
[32:56] because we wanted an automated system to do all this.
[32:58] We have forgone the automated system, unless if we can cook one up in two weeks, and we're
[33:05] going to do it manually.
[33:07] So rental property will probably be a little bit difficult, unless if you want to create
[33:15] their rental space and add them to your chests, and then they could sleep there, and then
[33:19] they could access the chest, but they wouldn't be able to edit the building.
[33:24] So for our shops, absolutely.
[33:26] I have a shop in Leoville, so you can create shops.
[33:33] Now, from the chests and sign lag, I would hope that we wouldn't have tons and tons
[33:39] of chests.
[33:41] So please, if you can avoid it, don't build storage structures in Leoville.
[33:47] And did I cover everything?
[33:51] How is it going to be paid?
[33:52] going to be kind of an automatic or is there just going to be a mod knocking at your door?
[33:57] Punch a sign?
[33:59] We're thinking punch a sign and it may go, we still need to work that out but it will
[34:07] not mod asking you.
[34:09] It will be either punch a sign, Curly is looking into an automated system so it may be that
[34:15] we're not going to be doing it as manually as we are right now and there will be a sign
[34:20] in front of everyone's house that you will have to pay and if the time limit goes up
[34:25] it will be available to buy.
[34:29] One of the reasons we didn't like that is because someone could come up and buy the
[34:33] plot and have all your stuff which we didn't like.
[34:39] Also a thing to say is each person can only have one plot.
[34:46] Even if you have alt accounts and try to get multiple plots, we will try to discourage
[34:50] that one person per plot.
[34:52] We want to have enough plots for as many people as we can.
[35:00] Anything else?
[35:05] I don't think so.
[35:06] Does anyone else have any more input?
[35:10] The title on the forum post.
[35:13] Just could be read again.
[35:16] Oh, yeah.
[35:22] That happens.
[35:23] Cheeto's fault.
[35:24] He wrote the title.
[35:25] Oh, sure.
[35:26] Well, he proofread the title.
[35:29] And didn't fix it. So you're saying you had an editor and
[35:37] Wow, oh
[35:39] Yeah, I needed it. It's been fixed. Cool. So good news plot are available
[35:50] feel free to fill out the form and
[35:54] Request your plot
[35:56] I'd like to take this out for to remind everyone that residential lots in the sky 5 are and will remain free
[36:03] Absolutely, no
[36:04] Yeah, the price is set for a reason. We only have 40 available plots
[36:10] And I mean if you just look at the amount of people online at the moment
[36:16] You know there's 30 something so
[36:19] And you know other people log on and people log off so so space
[36:24] Unfortunately the only way to to moderate
[36:28] That it we decided to do it with money
[36:31] So yeah, Sky5 blocks are free and I would suggest you move there. I have a house there and it's awesome.
[36:38] I do have one question. Would you be able to pay multiple months of rent at a time?
[36:44] That is something that I would like to have the option available.
[36:50] We need to look at our back end system.
[36:53] It may be that that's doable or if you just punch the sign seven times, we'll have a log that you've paid seven times.
[37:00] seven times. But I'm getting notes from other people that are saying that that might be
[37:08] difficult. So at the moment, that is an undetermined feature.
[37:12] Also, you know, people who have large bank accounts to just pump out and so they don't
[37:22] have to pay for an entire year. It might be a good thing, but also if they go offline
[37:26] in six months, then you have six months is already paid for.
[37:29] and do anything with.
[37:31] And we just tried.
[37:39] Am I still here?
[37:41] Yeah.
[37:41] OK, sorry.
[37:42] I think I wasn't hitting the push to talk button.
[37:45] So that is one thing is that we had discussed
[37:50] that we like the month to month so that if a user just leaves,
[37:56] their plot will not, if it was a rich user,
[38:01] their plot just won't sit there unused for months and months
[38:03] months. So at the moment I think we're just going to stick with you have to pay every
[38:09] single month. In the future, it may change. Kind of a weird question. I know there's some
[38:17] people... I'm just going to bring this question up. What are you guys doing with the emails?
[38:21] Because I know there's going to be some people that are going to be all like, oh my god,
[38:24] I don't want to share my email. We're not really going to do anything. Cheeto is saying
[38:32] Minecraft email but it would... I'm confusing. I'm getting multiple sources.
[38:39] Yeah, so the emails are only viewable by I think five people at the moment.
[38:47] These are all moderators and we... I mean we're obviously not going to put them in spam boxes or anything.
[38:57] It's only used to contact you if the desired plot that you want is not available.
[39:04] We can make that a non-required field, and if you just don't put an email,
[39:12] in fact, I'll do that right now,
[39:13] if you don't put an email, we can try to contact you through Minecraft Mail.
[39:18] So that is no longer a required field on the form.
[39:22] And the other issue is some people don't want to, you know, or they don't have an email which would sound absurd, but there are younger players, so...
[39:37] Well, you have to have one to create a Minecraft account, so...
[39:40] Not exactly.
[39:41] Do you still? Because now you can just buy like a plastic card.
[39:46] Okay, okay, okay, you're right.
[39:48] So I'm pretty much at the end of discussion topics. I don't know, there was surprise in there, but I think that was the Leoville Lots.
[40:01] from chat. Yeah, that was a surprise. So I guess we will... does anyone have anything
[40:10] just they want to touch on over the last two topics or else we're pretty much done. I will
[40:17] be updating my store prices. I'm sorry that it has been so long. So I guess right now
[40:26] Does anyone have anything we want to cover for next town hall?
[40:31] Or are we kind of...
[40:33] Indifferent?
[40:35] When will that be?
[40:37] Um sometime in March.
[40:40] So by then the plots will be gone.
[40:47] Yeah, you should probably put a topic about how the mods screwed up the plots.
[40:54] Um
[40:56] I guess I think we're done. So if someone
[40:58] anyone wants to do a shout out be like plug with Twitter so I guess we'll go
[41:03] down the list so Andrew Martin you want to plug anything?
[41:06] not really I'm not a very social person I'll plug my Minecraft I'm the same on
[41:12] Minecraft yeah mail me.
[41:14] Asmop do you want to plug anything?
[41:17] At Sky5 City that's Sky5 spelled out city.
[41:20] Do you want to plug anything?
[41:23] No comment.
[41:25] Goob you want to plug anything?
[41:29] Yeah, I just wanted to give a quick update on how the pig race went.
[41:34] It went pretty well.
[41:36] Not a huge turnout, but there also wasn't a lot of advertising on my part.
[41:42] And I hope to host it again in a month or so.
[41:46] KJ, do you have anything you want to plug?
[41:51] Ham radio in general.
[41:52] OMG Chad, I know you probably have a whole paragraph to plug.
[41:58] Nah, excuse me.
[41:59] Thanks.
[42:00] It was a great meeting.
[42:01] Watch your own gcraft.
[42:03] Is rage one of plugging?
[42:06] I got nothing.
[42:09] Vontae is one of plugging anything? I know you've been pretty quiet.
[42:13] Oh, at underscore Vontae is underscore.
[42:16] So, that concludes Town Hall for Saturday February 9th 2013.