[00:00] Alright, Terry, you're doing the intro.
[00:02] No, sir.
[00:03] Yep, you're doing the intro. Let's go.
[00:04] Screw it. I'm doing it.
[00:05] No, no, okay. You know what? I'll do it this week then.
[00:07] Okay then.
[00:08] Okay, well you've done the three, that would be three weeks in a row.
[00:10] Yeah, it's because we keep getting to the start and you're like,
[00:12] who wants to do the intro? It's just the intro. Just start it.
[00:14] There's gonna be so much bickering on this episode.
[00:20] We're just so done with it.
[00:22] It's the Twitcraft podcast episode four, the Town Hall episode for July 19th, 2012.
[00:40] Wait, hold on. I should have started this off.
[00:42] click click okay and this is I'm going to start five seconds if you don't start it screw you all
[00:47] get started it's episode four four of the twitcraft podcast episode four of episode four of the
[00:56] twitcraft podcast we're getting started well our town hall episode because curly is not here
[01:01] yeah so this is this is a fun episode because uh one new thing that has happened to mc.twit.tv is
[01:09] we now have a mumble server so to celebrate we're actually doing a community episode right
[01:14] that's why we're doing it yeah it's also a fallback because Curly is also not responding
[01:19] to anything how many hours have we been trying to get a hold of him uh like three I think
[01:25] like yeah like I don't know it's been it's been a while and like I want to say to clean
[01:29] my entire house the adventure that Curly whenever he wakes up from his drunken coma will go
[01:35] on is I sent him a message on Skype. I sent him like five messages on Skype that said
[01:42] to check his phone where I texted him five times to check his DMs where I DM'd him six
[01:51] times to check Mumble where we are right now trying to record the podcast. So he's
[02:01] going to go on some fun adventures when he wakes up.
[02:04] Right. So anyone who wants to join the new Mumble server can download Mumble,
[02:09] just Google it, and then enter into the server field,
[02:13] mc.twit.tv and we have a whole bunch of rooms. I'm looking at them.
[02:18] We got a discussion rooms. We have an AFK room. We have some events rooms.
[02:23] We have other game rooms.
[02:24] So if you want to use the server for other games like Left 4 Dead or Diablo
[02:29] or wow or anything like that.
[02:32] You can also use the server for that.
[02:34] Just go ahead and join.
[02:35] We have a, we have in the discussion rooms,
[02:39] we have four discussion rooms,
[02:40] and then the fourth one is an unfiltered room
[02:42] that you can use when you, miners are not in the room
[02:48] and you can cuss and whatever.
[02:49] And all the other rooms are supposed to be safe for work
[02:52] sort of atmosphere.
[02:53] So that's what's going on with the Mumble server.
[02:58] Yeah.
[02:59] Exciting. So in this server with us, I'm just going to read down the list. We have Cheeto,
[03:03] Cal girl, Curtis, iPod, parf, Linux, which, uh, you, uh, Nick flame me snowshoe T to T
[03:10] to the rage, uh, vent, Ventus. How do you say your name?
[03:14] Vontas.
[03:15] Vontas. And that's how I see him. That how you say it. Vontas. Oh, he's muted. So I'm
[03:21] asking a muted person a question. Um, so we're going to have a town hall episode where
[03:26] For you guys, feel free to chime in.
[03:29] If anyone wants to chime in, say hello.
[03:34] We could start with iPod.
[03:35] Hello?
[03:36] Hi.
[03:37] Hi.
[03:38] Yeah, I'm the guy who can typically see breaking melons on my balcony in Twitchcraft.
[03:43] And your skin is a rainbow man.
[03:46] It's a rainbow with sunglasses.
[03:48] Nice.
[03:49] Linux switch, hello.
[03:50] Hello.
[03:51] Awesome.
[03:52] Um, snowshoe, hello.
[03:56] He too doesn't talk.
[03:57] The rage hello?
[03:58] Hello.
[03:59] A ventus?
[04:00] Oh god, you're muted and I can't say your username.
[04:04] It's impossible.
[04:05] Muted's not your name, screw you.
[04:07] Yes, well now you're unmuted.
[04:08] Say hello.
[04:09] Hello, my name is Vantis.
[04:11] Vantis?
[04:12] Vantis?
[04:13] Vantis.
[04:14] I need to think of it like a praying mantis.
[04:16] Vantis.
[04:17] Praying vantis.
[04:18] Praying vantis.
[04:19] And then wizard's theme.
[04:21] Hello.
[04:22] Hi.
[04:23] Cool.
[04:24] So what I wanted to start off.
[04:25] accent go. What accent? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You're the one with the accent. Wait a second.
[04:32] Where'd your accent go? You're the one with the accent, James. Oh, damn it. Yeah. Ha ha
[04:37] ha. So let's start off with, uh, there was a little bit of a problem on the server. A
[04:42] little bit of a problem. A little bit of a problem. So if you logged in and I actually
[04:48] was logging in while it was happening where I logged in, oh wait, there's been two,
[04:52] No, I'm thinking of last week's problem.
[04:55] Last week's problem we had a problem where we had a hard drive thing.
[05:00] Right. So we ran a hard drive space, but we cover that last week.
[05:04] This week, we had a different problem where
[05:08] using some of the mod tools that the mods have, we accidentally rolled back
[05:12] the server nine days, everything on the server for the past nine days.
[05:18] And then a little bit of a problem, a little bit of a problem.
[05:21] You know, it is legitimately a mistake.
[05:23] It's it was it was a it was a syntax error in a during a
[05:28] moderate. Yeah.
[05:30] People don't realize how how how important like just one word can be.
[05:34] And like, you know, sometimes you forget a word and you roll back the entire server
[05:37] for nine days. Absolutely.
[05:39] So we undid that.
[05:41] But the tool that rolled back the server is limited in the
[05:45] capabilities that it can change.
[05:48] So like, say if it changed blocks that were underneath torches
[05:53] and then it replaced those blocks, torches won't be there and things like that.
[05:59] There are some weird issues with it when it rolled back.
[06:01] Slayers and then there's some redstone stuff is apparently messed up.
[06:04] There's issues with buttons.
[06:06] There's issues with stairs that face the wrong way.
[06:10] There's just a bunch of issues.
[06:12] Now, now, after that, like apparently right after that happened,
[06:15] we got that cleared up.
[06:17] There was another mistake made.
[06:21] I didn't hear about this.
[06:22] Which filled a large portion of an area with water.
[06:29] And what all the water was?
[06:30] And then after that happens,
[06:33] how large?
[06:33] There was a the person who accidentally did it, undid it.
[06:39] And so then there was there was quite a bit more lag on the server just from that.
[06:43] So the server was down for probably a good maybe four or five hours. I don't remember I
[06:50] Miss one. Yeah, yeah, it was whenever I heard server issues. I was like, oh is that other thing? Yeah
[06:55] No, it was it was it was the same kind of event eventful day. It was yeah
[07:01] Water everywhere, but I assumed that that was because you know
[07:04] Well, the blocks were destroyed on the water and then it stayed there because log block doesn't think about that stuff
[07:10] It was just some weirdness
[07:15] So yeah, so there's a there was I mean, there's a lot of issues.
[07:19] Saplings and trees are kind of, you know, screwed up at the moment.
[07:24] Stuff like that. Anyway, so we're working through those issues.
[07:28] There's a month read about or a forum read about it. Right.
[07:31] And this was written up in much more detail on the forum.
[07:35] So please go to MC dot to a TV clip forums and read all about it.
[07:40] And yeah.
[07:41] And if you're having issues, you can put in a mod rack
[07:44] or you can talk about it on the forum
[07:46] and we'll get back with you.
[07:47] We're absolutely sorry that we had these problems.
[07:50] There's more internal discussion over what we can do
[07:53] to if these problems happen in the future,
[07:57] what we can do to fix them.
[07:59] It's human error stuff.
[08:00] I mean, we're a community run by humans.
[08:04] Breaking news, the server's run by humans.
[08:07] Yeah, sorry, it's not all robots.
[08:09] Drink whiskey.
[08:10] Absolutely.
[08:11] It's
[08:14] Sometimes right
[08:16] Well, yeah, we don't all drink we don't know not all of us most of us
[08:19] I mean we start you a few every once in a while sometimes I'm just cuz you know, absolutely
[08:25] All the mod rex come in. I mean jeez. Yeah, it's yeah if you guys had any idea
[08:31] Yeah, this is a white curd. Yeah, yeah
[08:35] Okay, so all all you know problems aside man
[08:38] Yeah, that's been two weeks in a row that we've had server issues. I didn't mean yeah
[08:43] I didn't realize until I was like the problem that we had
[08:51] Yeah, so we'll see so let's move on to
[08:54] Next topic now this is time. Can I bring up something about the issue? No, we're
[09:00] Yeah, is that it's fix some of the lag north of spawn. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah
[09:05] Yeah, yeah north of saun is now lag free for some reason. Yeah. Yeah
[09:11] There are tools that eliminate lag by updating the chunk and we could have none of those work
[09:17] But because we did the rollback and updated no idea what it did
[09:21] Like we don't know like it might have been a lighting thing
[09:23] But I may be tried like relighting those chunks and everything like we have no idea but like frickin that
[09:29] That frickin in the con mistake that for it's gone
[09:33] It fixed Leoville like it fixed the lag in Leoville. Well, not all the time. I still get stuck there from time
[09:40] You know a bad computer whatever. No, there are still pockets
[09:43] There are still pockets and and I heard players in the vent or not in the mint in the mumble talking about
[09:49] Where pockets are and trying to find those pockets? Okay, we're trying to you know
[09:56] Like spawn like like as soon as you walk forward as soon as you get a spawn
[10:00] And that was always the worst thing for me between the mall and town hall.
[10:05] Yeah. And also I live next to there.
[10:08] So I move in certain blocks on my house and I'm stuck.
[10:11] Yeah, but not like, yeah, I'd always forget.
[10:14] And then I'm like, oh, God, I and it takes like 10 minutes for me to do slash MDS.
[10:19] Like, oh, yeah, I'd be taking like screen grabs of spawn.
[10:23] I was like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, possible.
[10:27] Anyway, so the next, anything else, the community that wants to add anything?
[10:34] Sounds good.
[10:35] Awesome.
[10:36] Moving on.
[10:37] So I was talking to, I know him as Ryan, you guys know him as Lone Wolf 77 something?
[10:45] What's his name?
[10:46] Timber Wolf?
[10:47] Timber Wolf 77.
[10:48] He brought up to me, he's actually the lighting designer at, at quit.
[10:55] He brought up to me that he wanted to start a bank
[10:58] So he wanted a player run bank where people could get loans
[11:05] Get I guess loans would really be the only thing. I mean they'd come in they put loans down
[11:11] Yeah, if we had like some kind of like
[11:14] Taxes or something they could like store their money with them so that they wouldn't get taxed, but we don't have that so no
[11:20] Yeah, I mean that I don't think that matters. Yeah. Yeah, they could know did like green like in the sorority
[11:24] I don't think they would store money right now like a like a 1% tax or something every day
[11:28] I think I won't say no we don't and no no in the server
[11:31] I used to be oh we're talking about we yeah we did and and so like people are online
[11:37] What is that every day you're online?
[11:39] It was just every day. It was it was just adopted. It was like a 1% tax or something and
[11:45] I know it might have been lower. I'm horrible, but like there was a tax and let's keep government small and so like people
[11:51] People would just like start banks and people would store their money with other players.
[11:57] Wait, do these banks have a way to get around the taxes?
[12:00] I don't, I'm not sure.
[12:03] How's that one?
[12:04] Well, I feel like if they didn't, then they'd be kind of useless, wouldn't it?
[12:08] Right.
[12:09] Huh.
[12:10] Anyway.
[12:11] I don't know a lot about that, sir.
[12:12] So, I mean, how do you feel about people, you know, users being able to, we'd have
[12:18] to find a plugin that would allow users to do this, so that they could take collateral
[12:25] and start up a bank and start giving out loans to people who want to start up stores or...
[12:32] I don't see why we need a plugin for that.
[12:35] People are doing with Google Docs.
[12:37] Yeah, right.
[12:38] Yeah, right.
[12:39] Like, I've been encouraging loan sharks for weeks now.
[12:45] Like I want people to...
[12:47] PVP turned off how would a loan shark higher corrupt moderators?
[12:52] Uh-huh. They hire moderate shake people down. How would which moderator would this be me? Oh my gosh
[12:58] Yeah, took me three months to figure out how to get a rail station in Leoville
[13:04] Because and you were so worried about what I would do with that. Yeah
[13:08] Bought me out then then that uh that would have been easier for you, huh?
[13:12] Maybe I know now I know for the future. Yeah, all I need to do
[13:17] Is you I can be bought people diamond blocks. How many diamond blocks would it take for me to?
[13:24] Get what would I want? Um at the center of corruption one?
[13:32] What what I want what do I want I want
[13:37] Everyone that when they log into the server next to have five cats that are theirs
[13:44] Well first off
[13:45] Well, you'd have to buy me out and then I would have to convince curly because here's the thing is um
[13:51] Let's assume that curly curly agrees curly. We and curly have a pack and whatever I asked well, then what am I here for?
[13:59] Because you're our fellow moderator. You're okay. Okay, so it's a run through your ready
[14:03] You want this and curly wants it as well, but it needs to be run by me right exactly which never happens by the way
[14:10] What's your price?
[14:11] Well, yeah, like well, no Curly's okay with it and I actively express
[14:15] Are you kidding me? Are you joking because I meet and curly both wanted
[14:20] That's cuz I actively expressed disapproval for it
[14:22] Well, would you like like if I'm just like not brought into the conversation at all then like you guys wouldn't care
[14:29] You guys just do it and like not tell me
[14:31] No, yeah, you did you that's why players get $300 when they spawn and not 30 I
[14:38] Was not brought into that conversation at all
[14:41] Well you made a bad point
[14:46] And you have a problem with that no I don't know not anymore oh
[14:51] Well we gave everyone $300
[14:53] Did we did we ever get around to that? Yeah, we did we updated the the SQL database whatever I don't care anymore. Oh
[14:59] I'm over it. I'm over it Chad. I'm over it. You sound like it. I'm over it Chad
[15:04] So okay, so I guess just play run banks can just be run by the players
[15:07] I don't need I don't see why that why we need a plug-in for that
[15:10] I mean chickens already running his rent service through a Google Doc. I mean it can be done
[15:14] It's just a matter of the players have to take initiative to do it
[15:19] But that is a good question
[15:23] Answer the question of how many diamond blocks would it take to get five cats for every player? Oh man, so many
[15:29] so many. I already had that idea and I'm already going to start arguing with it with you about
[15:33] it.
[15:34] But listen, everyone loves pets. And I think it would explain to me why players need five
[15:39] cats because creeper protection. Right. Creeper protection. Okay. When they're out in the
[15:44] wild wild wilderness and then also people we there's there have been studies show that
[15:50] when people have pets, it's sticky and they stick to the server for longer. So if we
[15:56] We just give them one pet, that's not enough.
[15:59] We want extra stickiness, so we're gonna give them five.
[16:02] Right, okay, okay.
[16:03] And they can name them- I get the extra stickiness thing.
[16:05] We can, okay, you know what?
[16:06] I'll get to your extra stickiness here in a second, okay?
[16:09] But first off, creeper protection, really?
[16:12] That's your deal?
[16:13] That's your deal, it's creeper protection.
[16:14] Oh yeah.
[16:15] We're a freaking, we're a survival server, Chad.
[16:18] Yeah, a survival server.
[16:19] But too many people die and they're leaving the server
[16:22] because of it.
[16:23] I have a great idea.
[16:23] Let's give people gold boots that allow them
[16:24] to fly everywhere.
[16:26] We did that before.
[16:27] Hey, how about we just turn off hunger on the server?
[16:29] Let's turn off hunger, Seth.
[16:30] Let's do that, because...
[16:31] Let's take my gold...
[16:32] How many...
[16:33] ...lie to 32,000 to find snow?
[16:34] Wait, how about...
[16:35] Okay, how many diamond blocks would it take to turn off hunger?
[16:38] How corrupt are you?
[16:40] You don't seem that corrupt to me.
[16:42] There is no mount.
[16:43] Yeah, you seem like a goody two-shoes to me.
[16:47] No, no.
[16:48] You know what?
[16:49] You seem like a...
[16:52] So many...
[16:53] Yeah, wow.
[16:54] Man, I'm really hurt.
[16:55] I'm really hurt that you'd say that oh, okay. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, that hurts. Okay. Okay
[17:03] So we found out that your corruption level is actually zero not really no, you know what?
[17:08] I'm it's I didn't say I didn't say I wouldn't do the cat thing
[17:11] I'm saying it's not it's not likely right off the top. Okay. All right. I'm saying it's gonna take a lot of damn blocks
[17:18] By the way, did you notice that?
[17:20] Cheeto started a
[17:22] Scavenger hunt in leoville today. Oh, did he really yeah, he bought he bought a whole bunch of blocks from drew was it drew?
[17:30] Mm-hmm and wasn't bought and he hid them around the leoville
[17:37] Well people can't mind them if they're in leoville
[17:39] I know I mean he's a mod so he just said that you know scavenger hunt is go and then when they found it
[17:45] He'd hand them a block
[17:47] Okay, yeah, people actually found oh my god. It was it was insane with people
[17:52] I even joined in and I don't need that box
[17:54] Like I joined in and they yeah, I was about say and he bought them from you, but he didn't yeah
[18:01] Anyway, it was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun
[18:04] So you wanted to bring up something with portals
[18:07] Right. Okay. Um, so we talked a couple weeks ago about Stargates
[18:13] About I am stuck. Hold on. I'm playing minecraft right now while we're
[18:17] Professional and by the way, I don't know if I love the Stargate idea. Oh
[18:22] Oh, this might change your mind
[18:25] Okay
[18:27] Shargot Shroomer I've been kicked
[18:36] Okay, no, but the idea was um, so so the the
[18:40] original idea for Stargates what would be um, we would have we have a stargate system that goes only between
[18:46] cities and cities would be
[18:48] The towns, the players start, anybody can start a town and if that town eventually gets
[18:53] to the point where it meets certain requirements of residents and buildings and certain structures
[18:59] that we need to have and what not, then it would be upgraded to a city.
[19:05] And the cities would have perks such as a stargate network connected only between cities.
[19:12] They would have a sub-forum in the towns forum.
[19:17] A few things like that.
[19:20] A few other things that we, you know,
[19:23] the towns would be given in era cities would be given in ATM,
[19:27] things like that, you know, once we get that working.
[19:31] And was it, who was it?
[19:34] NGT, was it?
[19:36] No.
[19:37] No, it was me.
[19:37] Terri, I'm sorry.
[19:40] Had the idea earlier when we were talking
[19:43] of the idea of instead of,
[19:45] Instead of just having Stargates be available by upgrading to a city, by having some way
[19:52] to buy a Stargate for your town without having to meet other requirements.
[20:00] And the advantage of that would be a place like Stonerun would be the example we were
[20:06] talking about earlier.
[20:07] Stonerun is a huge city.
[20:10] It's not huge.
[20:11] It's a huge start of a city.
[20:14] me out in the middle of absolute nowhere. It's like it's a good like five to seven minute
[20:22] minecart ride from anywhere close to spawn. So it doesn't have a lot of residents and
[20:30] it doesn't have a lot of traffic even though it's huge and awesome. And you know something
[20:35] like a Stargate, if, if, if Stoneman was able to buy a Stargate, they could, uh, yeah, that
[20:46] could attract more people to their town to get more residents and more buildings and
[20:50] whatnot. Right. So the idea was that we could, uh, would we be selling a Stargate? Right.
[20:56] So it would be, it would probably have to be crazy expensive, but the idea of being
[21:01] able to buy a Stargate basically.
[21:05] Just something that would give them the option to grow their city in that way versus organic
[21:09] growth because that's going to be harder because there's not really a huge draw to go there.
[21:14] But if they have a Stargate, because that person that runs the town puts in the time
[21:19] and effort to farm the money to pay for it, they could use that as a draw to get people
[21:23] to actually come out there and build their city.
[21:26] I like the capitalist aspect of, you know, I want to for like, I want the better experience
[21:33] of having the city.
[21:35] So I'm just going to spend money to have a Stargate placed in it.
[21:39] But I mean, I like this idea.
[21:43] I don't know.
[21:44] But I mean, part of my argument, if I'm playing devil's advocate, my argument would be like,
[21:47] well, why don't Sky five did it without.
[21:50] And I think that is there another one?
[21:52] It's a lot closer.
[21:53] Right.
[21:54] maybe a thousand blocks from spawn, probably not even that,
[21:59] maybe like 500.
[22:00] Stonerun is a good couple thousand blocks away.
[22:05] It's a very long ways away.
[22:07] So it won't have that natural growth.
[22:10] If people were going to use that place,
[22:12] they would have to set their spawn there
[22:14] and they'd have to completely move everything.
[22:17] It'd be like going to a different state.
[22:18] Or take a mine cart, the five minute mine cart ride
[22:21] over there at the time.
[22:22] Right, right.
[22:24] Right. I guess, uh, yeah, my, my, my first argument was going to be that I don't
[22:28] think we should just use stargates at all. I like, I like the vanilla-ness of
[22:33] mine carts, but if this server is going to grow, we really need some sort of
[22:37] transportation further off, you know, quicker transportation, like mine carts
[22:42] are great and everything, but you know, going all the way across the, the
[22:47] 5000 by 5000 map on a minecart takes a long time.
[22:53] Yeah.
[22:54] Yeah.
[22:54] I took a minecart to get to my mining area that I've set for home and it took so long
[23:02] and hitting every station along the way.
[23:05] It was like, and every station is a little bit different.
[23:09] It was difficult.
[23:12] I agree.
[23:12] I like the idea of having a port at least between certain distances like like you said
[23:18] The town it needs to be far enough away to warrant that it need they stargate from another town
[23:24] perhaps like if there's Skype like sky 5 is a
[23:27] Decent it's a decent amount of blocks away that you might want a portal
[23:31] But it doesn't necessarily need one because the rail system isn't as long between legal villains guy five
[23:37] Well, let's say let's say you know spawn spawn is our anchor point. Maybe we can have a tiered system where?
[23:44] You know a thousand five hundred blocks from spawn it costs so much
[23:49] from a thousand five hundred to
[23:51] Four thousand cost so much how big is our world ten thousand five thousand by five thousand so yeah, okay
[23:58] So yeah, we're getting to the edge there
[24:01] then
[24:02] Hmm. I mean that makes sense to me too, or just be a flat fee and not have to figure all that stuff out
[24:10] Yeah, the flat fee. I mean to me is is I feel like a good way to go
[24:13] I feel like a fat flat fee would be it's fair easier because and more fair because it's hard to measure distance away from
[24:21] Yeah, right, right. I like this idea and
[24:25] Because yeah, I like it
[24:28] Alternatively
[24:30] We could just have I like the idea first off. I like the idea of stargates. They go straight between cities
[24:38] But so this would be a sub a sub stargate system, right? No
[24:42] No, well this this would be this would be the same thing
[24:44] It was just if if people could be you know could buy their way onto that list of city stargates
[24:50] So what you're saying is but if this if the city
[24:54] Meets all the requirements. They don't have to pay but if they right
[24:57] But if they don't and they just want a Stargate before they get to a city then they can buy their way into one
[25:04] And you can make like 20 grand or something. So it's a significant investment. Yeah, right
[25:09] and
[25:10] But but what if what if we went another route of?
[25:14] having
[25:16] Having a Stargate system that just goes like
[25:20] 3,000 blocks away from spawn like to Northeast West the south and west
[25:24] So it would have four locations like the middle of nowhere in the north, middle of nowhere
[25:28] in the east, middle of nowhere in the south, middle of nowhere in the west.
[25:31] That's just going to create a city around it.
[25:34] Right.
[25:35] Well, but that way people could feasibly make rail systems that...
[25:40] I don't like that idea.
[25:43] To get to Stonewrun or whatever, you take the portal to northern wilderness and then
[25:50] you take the railroad right there and it's only like a minute long thing.
[25:53] Let me make sure I understand.
[25:54] So you're saying instead of buying into the Stargate system, we have these four Stargates.
[25:59] Right.
[26:00] Well, I would bring that up to whoever runs the city that wants to Stargate.
[26:09] If you go to a certain point though and stop it there and just drop it in the middle of
[26:13] literally whatever is there or nowhere, that's going to assign added value to that position.
[26:18] Absolutely.
[26:19] Now it's better than some of the outer lying areas even around spawn because it's less
[26:24] of a walk.
[26:25] Absolutely.
[26:26] Yeah, absolutely.
[26:27] Yeah, I mean, I noticed that the second that you said that James, but I don't know.
[26:31] I can't decide if that's a bad thing or a good thing.
[26:34] Part of the reason that I like the other idea, having them in cities better is because it's
[26:40] simpler because you're just going to go straight to the city that you want.
[26:44] They can create a nice spawn point around it.
[26:49] I also like the you could be a little bit more
[26:52] entrepreneurial with the four other stargates and
[26:56] And everyone knows what north you know east west south
[27:00] stargates would mean
[27:02] Or you know conceptually have in their mind um
[27:06] Yeah, I think I think probably keeping it within certain like specific locations is probably a better idea than the northeast southwest thing
[27:13] Yeah, like being able to
[27:15] You know either either get it for being a city or by your way on to it
[27:18] I would argue that fewer stargates is gonna be better and I think the city idea is
[27:24] The best way to pull that off
[27:27] Yeah, I agree
[27:30] Yeah anything else from from the town hall
[27:36] guess not
[27:38] Now
[27:39] Curly had written in a whole bunch of stuff to talk about in topic 2. Do you want to cover any of this? Not really?
[27:45] Okay, do you want to talk about the server you've been working on?
[27:52] Which server the paintball server? Oh, yeah. Yeah, so so
[27:57] Earlier earlier in the week curly threw up a paintball server by request of
[28:03] several several twitcraft kids
[28:06] So all day today, which is Tuesday
[28:09] We were we were even playing wait. No, sorry. It's Monday
[28:12] We've been playing on it, we built a nice little arena.
[28:16] We've had a lot of fun.
[28:17] I don't know, I like to do more stuff like that, more kind of smaller events and all
[28:23] that.
[28:24] Will this be open for all of... what's the general idea for this?
[28:28] Anyone?
[28:29] I don't know how long... yeah, it's a mod.
[28:31] You can go in the forums in the mod section, there's instructions on how to install the
[28:35] mod.
[28:36] It's the singular mod that's placed in that section.
[28:38] Yeah, it's the only thread in there.
[28:41] Yeah, it's I don't know. Yeah, like I don't know how long it's gonna stay up. Maybe maybe a few days
[28:44] Probably until people get bored of it
[28:48] So, yeah, okay, so so anyone can join in anyone I mean
[28:59] Sprocks
[29:02] for whitelisting
[29:03] Yeah
[29:05] Yeah, it seems like there should be a forum post just about that server if I don't know if we are
[29:11] And then also there should be I don't know. I feel like there should be event an event around it
[29:18] Because we were helping we're you know, we're facilitating creating the world but really we're
[29:26] Yeah
[29:29] Okay, it'd be typical to make an event out of it
[29:31] You just just say we're gonna be doing this at this time on this day
[29:35] I want to show up show up if you don't don't if you need help getting your stuff set up
[29:39] There are people that are around that know what they're doing, right?
[29:42] Right, that's what yeah, that's yeah that I mean not a not an event
[29:45] We're like prizes you or anything, but yeah that sort of thing where we just say hey give away money and game, right?
[29:51] That'd be fun
[29:52] Do the winning team? Yeah. Yeah sure why not?
[29:56] Of course the winning team would be the mods that that would get more people to participate
[30:00] Potentially if you're giving away money in the game instead of just making it so that people are just oh do you want to play?
[30:06] Well, no because it's difficult. Well, I'll just stay here in mind, right? Exactly. Right?
[30:14] We could do that and if it's and who knows if by the time this podcast goes up the server all you can still be up
[30:21] But yeah, and we'll see. Yeah, it's it's it's been a lot of fun
[30:26] I'd like to do more stuff like it
[30:28] Wonderful. That's all that I have to talk about.
[30:33] Let's talk about something.
[30:34] Is there anything else?
[30:35] I want to talk about walls.
[30:36] Walls.
[30:37] Oh, holy crap. Yeah.
[30:38] Were you in here earlier, Chad, when we were talking about the walls?
[30:41] The map?
[30:42] Yeah.
[30:43] I don't believe I was.
[30:45] Yeah, it's already brought up.
[30:47] There's a map called the walls that I recently came out, which some of the mods played on.
[30:55] That was my multiplayer pick.
[30:59] I still demand a rematch on that.
[31:02] Yeah, I know.
[31:03] You suffocated in a wall both times.
[31:06] I know.
[31:08] Don't judge me.
[31:09] I'll judge you as much as I want.
[31:11] You suffocated in gravel twice in a PvP map.
[31:15] The second time was on purpose.
[31:17] There's 15 minutes.
[31:18] I know.
[31:19] I was suffocating in gravel.
[31:20] Okay, calm.
[31:21] So let's explain a little bit of what this map is.
[31:24] Each player is given a two by two chunk area to start with.
[31:28] There are four of these playable areas around the map and they're divided through, not on
[31:36] each side, but when you look at the map it's a square and in the middle of the square there's
[31:41] an X and that X is a really tall wall.
[31:45] And that makes sure that the players who are in their two by two chunk can't.
[31:49] And all four areas are, they're all the same.
[31:53] They're all the same. They're all here.
[31:54] And so you start off in the corner.
[31:56] And then when the levers push you up into the map,
[32:01] a 15 minute timer starts.
[32:03] And you have 15 minutes to use that area
[32:08] to gather materials, weapons, harvest, or mine around
[32:13] to get as much as you can.
[32:14] There's also secret chests hidden around
[32:17] if you can find them fast enough, get food,
[32:20] that sort of thing.
[32:21] And then after the 15 minutes are up, the walls fall, the sand, their sand walls.
[32:27] So pistons let all the walls fall down and then each chunk or each, each area can now
[32:34] go into the other area.
[32:36] So we played with eight, no, yeah, we played with eight people.
[32:40] So two, two people per area.
[32:43] And then when the walls fell, you know, you run over and cause your PVP mayhem.
[32:48] So what were you talking about this map for?
[32:51] Oh no, like Terryage brought it up and he was like we were talking about uh talking about some stuff
[32:56] and
[32:57] And he brought it up and what sort of stuff not not not stuff not podcast stuff
[33:04] stuff
[33:06] We're talking about some stuff and
[33:09] Very cagey we
[33:12] And he brought it up and is the idea we're talking about some of the experience we had and we had a lot of fun on it
[33:18] No, you uh
[33:19] So, okay, so it's just a fun map.
[33:23] It's just a fun map.
[33:24] Do we need to, are we gonna put this up?
[33:27] No, no, no, like it'd be fun.
[33:28] It'd be fun to do a Twitter craft event on it.
[33:29] And that's what I was thinking.
[33:30] Maybe, maybe, I think, the Wallace Tournament.
[33:31] I think if we want to do something like that, you could have, you know, since you're doing
[33:36] teams, you could have each team throw in like, say, 100 coins per person and have a big
[33:42] bounty on the end of it and make it worthwhile.
[33:45] If we do it, I suggest that we edit the map a bit.
[33:48] There's a few things I'm...
[33:49] I don't like about this map.
[33:51] One being that when the walls fall, your client will lag out.
[33:55] Yeah, yeah. If you don't have an amazing computer
[33:58] and are sitting right next to the server...
[34:01] Yeah, I even had a modern client that had 4 GB of memory allocated to Minecraft
[34:07] and it still crashed my client.
[34:10] So I think we need to do that.
[34:11] I also think that the holding pins should be bigger.
[34:14] Instead of just a one cube, it should be, you know, it could easily be a six,
[34:20] six by six and the entire team in there.
[34:23] I mean, there's no reason not to.
[34:24] And then also there needs to be some rail system to get you to your area.
[34:30] And there needs to be a lobby.
[34:31] And then you could also go back and just make our own look.
[34:34] I mean, seriously, there's so many things that I want to change about that map
[34:38] that it's not even funny.
[34:39] And also if you were playing with people who have played before,
[34:43] They are gonna know where the chests are with all the good stuff
[34:48] So I wish that they would just remove the the chest randomized or randomize them somehow
[34:55] Yeah, so so there's a few things I dislike about that map that I'd want to change
[34:59] But that's going just conjecture and just taking the chest out
[35:02] I think would be better anyway, we're just going off of straight knowing what to do how to build your
[35:08] You know our side so that you can take on or defend against the other people
[35:13] I actually downloaded the map a couple days ago and just looked around and single-player and
[35:19] pretty much there are really only a
[35:22] couple chests hidden chests and most people found all of them when a
[35:27] Bunch of the mods played like a couple weeks ago. I never found
[35:31] I believe there's a chest with like apples in it golden apples. No
[35:36] From what I know there's like if you don't mind me spoiling every chest
[35:39] I mean, yeah, if you're gonna play you should might as well know everyone should be on the same ground
[35:46] There's a chest with just TNT. It's like four then one with fire charges
[35:51] One with cobwebs one with a couple TNT and then one
[35:56] You find right off the bat and that's about it. You're out. Yeah
[36:01] Okay
[36:03] There was one that had armor in it, but I guess I'm remembering incorrectly
[36:07] correctly no not that I know of huh huh okay I just want to say that my team won
[36:14] both games that we played yeah and I've reached quit the second time we played
[36:18] hmm is my client crashed and I felt like curly used that like he was like well
[36:25] when the walls fall jazz gonna crash out so let's go really you think Curly's
[36:30] curly thought ahead that far he's died well at least Jessica did do you not
[36:34] Remember when curly said he was sitting back drinking his whiskey watching the wall fall
[36:40] Yeah, no, I mean the yes, I that that's what I felt like we're not we're not gonna get into it
[36:47] But yeah, yeah, I mean I raised crit cuz I was mad and I'm still mad obviously
[36:52] Well, that's if anything else that anyone wants to bring up. I guess that's the end of the show
[37:02] Thanks for listening. Wait, let's talk about dinosaurs. We don't have enough time
[37:07] We actually don't.
[37:08] Yeah, it's my bedtime, isn't it?
[37:10] Yeah.
[37:11] You said that you had to go.
[37:12] Next week.
[37:13] Next week we will have a special...
[37:15] Sorry for such a short episode too.
[37:16] It hasn't been very long.
[37:17] But uh, same as Curly's not here and this isn't a real episode.
[37:20] This isn't a real episode.
[37:22] Sure it is, buddy.
[37:23] What do you mean it's not a real episode?
[37:25] If it makes you feel better then this is a real episode.
[37:27] You're insane.
[37:28] We did everything that we normally do just without Curly.
[37:31] Okay, if that's what makes you feel better.
[37:34] It does make me feel better.
[37:36] Okay.
[37:37] Anyway, that's it.
[37:40] So thanks for listening.
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